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3DHA 4: Adding a Finished Attic - 3/30/2010 2:00:00 PM   
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I have a two story colonial design which I did with 3dHA 4.0 (actually earlier, but can not go any higher than this), which has a walk-up attic. I want to do the plans for finishing it. I have had issues trying to add walls to the "attic" floor, and if I add a third floor, I wind up with a third floor, not tapered front walls.

I played around with setting the two side walls to Gable walls but not sure what to do with the front walls. I simply want to have the walkup stairs go into the attic, (which I can see with the reference floor displayed), add two knee walls going the length of the house and then add two front to back walls creating two bedrooms.

Any ideas. I know this is an old version, but I upgraded to 10, but then found out I could not open these plans.

BTW, It would be really helpful if Encore had someone write a converter/import tool for versions 1-4 and 5-8 to the latest format. I am sure it must be very different file formats to be simple, but even if they could just import the floor plan without furniture and such would save a lot of time.

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RE: 3DHA 4: Adding a Finished Attic - 3/30/2010 2:11:30 PM   
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Hi pgroudas,

First of all, I'll have to tell you that I will not be able to help you with your problem with 3DHA 4 - because it has been a very long time since I have used 3DHA 4. And, since 3DHA 4 is such a very old product, not many 3DHA 4 users visit this forum.

As to your comment about writing a converter/import tool for versions 1-4 and 5-8, I'm afraid that's not going to happen - because, if Broderbund had wanted a converter/import tool to be created for those versions, that converter/import tool would have been created at the same time that the file format was changed. And, since all versions of 3DHA were discontinued many years ago, no additional fixes will be released.

You might, though, want to make a note of the fact that you should be able to open your 3DHA 4 projects in one of these products

* Better Homes and Gardens Home Designer - Better Homes and Gardens Home Designer 7.0

* Chief Architect Home Designer - Chief Architect Software

However, it is not known for certain whether 3DHA 4 products can be opened in all versions of Better Homes and Gardens Home Designer and Chief Architect Home Designer. So, it would be a good idea to check the FAQs for those products before you purchase either of them.

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RE: 3DHA 4: Adding a Finished Attic - 3/30/2010 5:25:04 PM   
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Thanks for the quick response. I did not expect much since it is a very old product, and the change of file formats and owners. I figured it was worth a try.

I will check the other possible programs.

Thanks again.
Pete

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RE: 3DHA 4: Adding a Finished Attic - 3/30/2010 6:43:22 PM   
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Hi, Pete,

I once had 3D Home Architect ver. 3.0, and I was able to open and save a 3D v3 plan with Better Homes and Gardens Home Designer 8.0. It's been a while since I did that conversion, and since that time I bought Chief Architect Home Designer 9.0 to run in Windows 7.

When I first opened my 3D Home plan in Better Homes and Gardens Home Designer 8.0, I had to go through dozens of errors for items not found; these were often image files, I think, for fittings in the plan, and landscape plants. However, once I got the file opened, it was pretty much what I'd designed in 3D Home, and with some tweaks I had a plan that suited my purposes and was as useful as the 3D Home plan.

When I got Chief Architect Home Designer 9.0, it opened the last version of the plan I'd saved in Better Homes and Gardens Home Designer 8.0 without a stutter. From your question and out of curiosity, I tried to open my older 3D Home v3 plan directly into Chief Architect Home Designer. I went through at least as many errors and not-found items as with the earlier BH&G conversion, but once again I had a usable plan that could be cleaned up if I wanted to take the time.

For my purposes, spending the cleanup time was better than starting over with a new plan. Hope this helps.

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RE: 3DHA 4: Adding a Finished Attic - 3/31/2010 5:46:31 PM   
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David,

Thanks for the input on the file format. Which of the two newer programs do you prefer? I was just doing the straight foward upgrade of what I had, until that failed, so now I will start looking at the differences between the H&G and Chief.

Thanks for the up front test of a direct convert into Chief.

Pete

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RE: 3DHA 4: Adding a Finished Attic - 3/31/2010 7:18:23 PM   
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Pete,

I think I'd steer you to the Better Homes and Gardens Home Designer 8.0 product, since I know I was successful in converting my 3D Home ver. 3 plan in it. (I'll guess that the 3D Home v4 will import, too.) When I open the original 3D Home plan in Chief Architect Home Designer 9.0, it seems to convert the rooms and dimensions, but I can't find a way to modify the text of objects, which is bizarrely large, to the extent that you're mostly looking at text. Maybe there's some way to deal with the text labels for objects buried in the program, but I can't find it. On the other hand, the 3DHA plan that I converted and saved in BH&G 8 opens just fine in Chief Architect HD.

You could consider the route I took, and use BH&G to do your first conversion and tweaks. If you later find you need a program for Windows 7, get Chief Architect HD and open the BH&G-converted plan. I haven't tried to install BH&G in Windows 7, and it's possible that it would run and you wouldn't need Chief Architect. I saw the Chief Architect program for sale in a Cyber Monday deal, before I had a Windows 7 computer, and figured I might as well get it. Otherwise I would have stayed with BH&G 8 until forced to move on.

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